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Dealing with Stupid People



Here at Perverted-Justice.com, we're blunt. Our stock and trade is simply telling the truth. This opinions piece is written in that vein, while being sprinkled with copious amounts of sarcasm. We get a lot of email from readers of the website. 98.6% of it is positive and great. They're from concerned citizens who have intellect and actual interesting things to say. We get such a crush of email that we have set up departments to handle all the email we get. Literally, we get hundreds to thousands of emails a week from people. Some of them are simply saying thanks, some of them are trying to give us tips, others are media, law enforcement... all shades of emails.

But about 1% of the emails we receive are from irredeemably stupid people.

Some of them are straight-up pedophiles, trying to pass off their "child lover" propaganda like we're going to suddenly say one day, "Oh, wow, we've been so wrong to expose internet predators!" Not going to happen, and the amount of email we get from these sorts of idiots would actually shock you. Let's be blunt: They're stupid.

Some are from people who think our frank and honest language is "offensive." We've literally gotten emails from someone objecting to a profanity posted on our site by a volunteer, or coarse language in our Frequently Asked Questions. We find that amusing because really... you're going to be offended by a profanity when there are hundreds of chat-logs posted on this website where males attempt to solicit children? C'mon. They're stupid.

Some write long angry emails complaining that our text isn't "gender-neutral." Apparently it makes us seem like we're a "male-bashing" website. Now, on the planet of things to worry about, our worrying that our language isn't "gender-neutral" is about at the bottom of the list. Furthermore, the language shouldn't be gender-neutral! More than 95% of pedophiles are male. Our total of internet predators thus far see 756 males in little more than two years solicit our profiles for sex. The amount of females? 1. A 756-1 ratio means that we get to use gender-specific language as much as we please. People that email us about that? They're stupid.

Some people email and try to claim that there's entrapment going on!!! Or civil rights being violated!!! Or that what we do could never be used in a court of law!!! Or that we shouldn't post the logs because they're disgusting!!! Or we're going to be sueeeeeeddddd, SURELY!!! We've been around since the Summer of 2003, we've heard it all. They're stupid.

Topping it all though, are the people who absolutely take the entire stupidity cake. These are those that email us offended that they're "going to be posted on the website." Either people who have good intentions trying to scare pedophiles/predators or perhaps just someone trying to prank someone, we get a few emails a month from people saying that they were in a chat-room, doing something, talking to someone, on webcam... and then they get told that they're going to be posted on Perverted-Justice.com. These people always email me. It never fails. Either they're worried, or they're angry, or they're confused... the thing they have in common? They're always stupid.

This has been going on for at least two years now, people being pranked or "scared straight" by random people out there using the name of the website as a "boogeyman." In general, it strikes us as rather hilarious that someone is going to email us admitting that they talked to someone posing anywhere from 14-17. Think about it, it's just a stupid thing to do in general. The reason we're bringing up this issue in a PeeJ Opinions piece now is because we've received perhaps the dumbest email ever sent to us from a person who apparently was pranked by some random internet user. We're going to repost it here, completely unedited, because emailing him scorn in reply only resulted in a message delivery failure return.

Email from an "Alan Stringer":
Hrm,

Ok - just thought I would give my input on what Perverted-Justice.com is doing. They are going into Yahoo and other chatrooms, making profiles as underage girls and boys, and leading people on.

Yesterday I was in Yahoo Chats, and someone aproached me and asked "Can I view your webcam?" and when I did - the first thing they said "OMG your going up on Perverted-Justice.com!", I would LOVE for you guys to post my picture, and not have a chatlog other than "17/m/ms, just chatting" especially with me being in full Military Police uniform, on a military base in Brandon Mississippi with 4 other (( 3 females, 1 male )) MP's in the background.

5 emails have been sent on this matter, one to the Cyber Crime department of the Mississippi FBI branch, the second to my company's legal liason(US Department of Defense - Army National Guard, Military Police.), a third to your webhost abuse department, gotten by Neotrace'ing your domain's IP address to your server, a fourth email is being sent to you, and the last is being sent to MSNBC.

You guys should stop hanging out in chatrooms posing as underage kids. Anyone who has ever meet a predator on the net was because of their own fault, why do you think they hang out in these chatrooms? Just to talk about the weather? If you want to help anyone, stop focusing on the bad side of things and start focusing on what you can do to help prevent it, one getting the US Congress to change the US Constitution so they can censor everything and spy on chatrooms, two would be educating these parents who obviously are too neglagent to worry about what their kids are doing on the net, or who comes to visit them, three would be to have the US Congress outlaw porn, chatrooms, messengers, the internet, phones, tv, satalite, cable.

Perverted-Justice.com is worse than Fox news, who had everyone thinking that we found Weapons of Massive Destruction in Iraq for the first two months of the war. Focusing on the bad side of things is not going to help, it's just going to show people how sick our world is these days, and give you a few extra bucks in your pocket off the ads and affiliates to your website. Basically you are exploiting these kids and should be sent to prison for the rest of your life.

-Alan

Sent by Military.com Email


That's the stupidest email we've ever received. Bar none.

You would think that if you're going to be posted on a website notorious for outing internet predators, you might invest oh... five seconds in researching the website. Even a casual reading of our Frequently Asked Questions would clear up this individual's stupidity. We're going to go through and note the most glaring factual inaccuracies. To cover everything he was idiotic about would take up far too much time we could better spend replying to our massive backlog of Dateline emails.

Before we note the various inaccuracies and repudiate them, let's deal with the first and only accurate part of his email: They are going into Yahoo and other chatrooms, making profiles as underage girls and boys. That is true. That is part of what we do. We, as an organization, go into Yahoo, AOL, and various other chat-rooms to pose as 10-15 year old females or males.

Now, onto the glaring inaccuracies!

A. Yesterday I was in Yahoo Chats, and someone aproached me and asked "Can I view your webcam?" and when I did - the first thing they said "OMG your going up on Perverted-Justice.com!"

The first part of this to note is where the person he spoke with "approached him" and asked to view his webcam. We don't do that. Furthermore, we don't need to do that. There is no shortage of internet predators that will approach a teen profile in chat-rooms across the internet. There are no shortage of older males that will try to solicit them in chat, on social networking sites like Myspace.com, via popular teen-oriented message boards... you name it. The day we don't get approached would be a very cool day.

The second part of this note? We don't tell people they're going to be posted. We used to at the end of chat-logs prior to involving ourselves with law enforcement on a national scale, back before we built up the contacts and credibility to be able to call a department and get cooperation towards the arrest of a predator. We don't tell people ahead of time now. Usually, they find out via police officer or telephone. Either they get arrested or their profile goes up unbeknownst to them and they get a phone call or IM regarding the matter. Which, as surely you can imagine, would be quite the surprise.

B. 5 emails have been sent on this matter, one to the Cyber Crime department of the Mississippi FBI branch, the second to my company's legal liason(US Department of Defense - Army National Guard, Military Police.), a third to your webhost abuse department, gotten by Neotrace'ing your domain's IP address to your server, a fourth email is being sent to you, and the last is being sent to MSNBC.

The cool thing about his email is that he spread even more awareness about what we do. The man is so stupid that he didn't check out how we operate before writing his illiterate email that we'll likely benefit from it. Hopefully each and every individual he emailed contacts us.

We'd love to talk to the Mississippi FBI branch and shoot for an Information First agreement with them. Then, we can make a contact with his company's legal liason and perhaps get a Military Information First agreement with them. We can hope MSNBC views his email as "controversial" and maybe we can get a segment bashing this guy for being brainless. After all, it's hard to get media anymore with all our convictions and work with LE. Apparently we're just not as sexy-controversial to the media as we used to be. Sigh. Oh, and we can laugh about the guy's email with our webhost, who have already been hit with more lies about us than you can shake a stick at. They're used to the stupidity themselves.

Additionally, the idea that a webhost will take action regarding supposed "content" that isn't yet "posted" is kind of amusing.

C. Anyone who has ever meet a predator on the net was because of their own fault, why do you think they hang out in these chatrooms? Just to talk about the weather?

We're not entirely sure just what exactly kids go into chat-rooms to talk about. After all, we don't go into chat-rooms and talk to kids. Not sure how smart it is to mention how intimate one's knowledge is about what kids talk about in chat-rooms... that's disturbing. Regardless, the idea that it is a child's fault that they met a predator is as cro-magdon as it gets. Research has shown that kids and young teens cannot give "informed consent." Additionally, some predators blackmail, coerce and bully their victims into real-life meets. The idea that a kid is responsible for being abducted is as sickening as the idea that a female is responsible for her rape because of "what she's wearing" or "what neighborhood she chose to go into."

In all seriousness and without a lack of levity, kids can go into chat-rooms for many reasons. Perhaps they're going into a kid's or teen's room that is supposed to be moderated. Maybe they're talking about their favorite TV show, musical artist or event. Hey, maybe they're trying to talk politics, or play a game of chess in a gaming area of a popular portal. That someone supposedly in the military is espousing "blame the victim" opinions is quite disturbing, almost as disturbing as the people we expose on a regular basis.

D. Perverted-Justice.com is worse than Fox news

Well, we can tell this person's political affiliations, can't we? Not that Perverted-Justice.com takes a position on political matters. We have no clue if Fox News is evil or not, our one interview with them went pretty well though. We didn't detect any overt "evil" in them, but we'll report back if we find any at some point.

E. Focusing on the bad side of things is not going to help, it's just going to show people how sick our world is these days, and give you a few extra bucks in your pocket off the ads and affiliates to your website.

Take a good look. Perverted-Justice.com does not have ads on the website. Could we use advertiser dollars? Sure. Have we gotten offers to place advertising on website? By the dozens. One of them even offered 20 cents per ad impression! Still, we turned it down. Additionally, we don't charge the websites that affiliate with us. We just... trade links with them when they make contact, IF we like their website.

More striking though, is the idea that it does not aid the world to show how sick the world has become. It is a great aid to hold up a mirror to the internet and show the dark side of things. Parents hear the term "internet safety" and yawn... they come to Perverted-Justice.com and read the chat-log and they do anything but yawn. They get concerned. They get disturbed, disgusted and they make sure their kids are safe online. That's a good thing. A very good thing. And we don't even make you look at ugly ads for the educational service. What are we thinking!?!?

F. Basically you are exploiting these kids and should be sent to prison for the rest of your life.

It's appropriate we end with F. The man has already flunked "doing research", any extra credit he could have earned with proper spelling and logic in general. I'm not sure what kids he thinks we're exploiting as our website is 100% kid-free. We don't have under-eighteen volunteers. We don't create little "groups" of teens and exploit them by putting them on TV. Or in chat-rooms. We don't deal with "kids" at all. We just train people how to act like children with court-credible evidence when we elevate volunteers to our "Contributor" position.

Is that a jail-worthy offense? Yes, for those people we expose in many cases.

While this Opinions piece may not stop the small trickle of really stupid email we get, it's good to finally be honest and expose some of it for just how dumb it is. How dumb? So dumb.

If you could see it all, you would probably be in a toss-up between being shocked by how insidious the people we expose are... and how stupid some of the people that email us are. It can be more disturbing than the people we expose, since we're so inured to internet predators in general by this point. The odiousness of "pure stupidity" never really dims, however.

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